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  1. The price of Aweber gets most people. If you’re NOT a for profit business then the added costs are really not justified unless like you like losing money.

    I briefly looked at Traffic Wave a couple of years ago, but I’ve been using Get Response for the past few years and I know getting people to subscribe again would cost me subscribers and that’s a risk I’m not willing to take – at least not at this moment.

    Your article was very informative in telling the pros and cons of each service. Keep the great articles coming!

    1. You’re so right that Aweber works best for businesses that are for profit as it is the best in the industry with the highest deliverability rates, etc.

      And I’m not advocating that everyone switch from their current provider. If you already have someone you use that is working well for you then that’s great. I simply wanted to share why we decided to switch ourselves.

  2. Great information. I left Aweber for the same reason. Too high! It’s too high when you’re just starting out–like I am–and too high when your list grows–like you are. I wish I had discovered Traffic Wave. Instead I went with Vertical Response because you only pay for the number of emails you actually send. In that respect, it is easier for those just starting out, but of course will have the same problem as Aweber later on. AND they have only one thank you message, no series of automated response emails like Aweber does.

    1. Deborah,
      So true! That’s a bummer that Vertical Response doesn’t have autoresponders as that is one of the main ways we use e-mail marketing. TrafficWave isn’t perfect but it fits our needs and we have been happy with it.

  3. I use the free version of Mailchimp. But I don’t have more than 2,000 subscribers — the point at which they start charging. How does pay version of Mailchimp stack up againt Traffic Wave?

    1. Randy,
      One of the biggest disadvantages with MailChimp is that many times they do not allow any affiliate links or affiliate marketing in your e-mails. I’ve heard of people getting their accounts shut down due to using affiliate links. MailChimp states they do not ban affiliate links but they do stop e-mails with links that are on blacklists. http://kb.mailchimp.com/article/does-mailchimp-ban-affiliate-links

      However, MailChimp can be great for small lists. Unfortunately, their prices do go up with subscribers and their prices are very similar to Aweber’s. The following prices are from their website (http://mailchimp.com/pricing/):

      1,001 – 2,500 subscribers – $30
      2,501 – 5,000 – $50
      5,001 – 10,000 – $75
      10,001 – 25,000 – $150

      So, personally, I would have had the same issues with MailChimp that I had with Aweber in that once I had over 10,000 subscribers, I would be paying $150 per month.

  4. It seems to me that when I switched from Aweber to Vertical Response that I could upload my list to them and assure them that they were already double opted in subscribers. Did you not get this opportunity with Traffic Wave?

    I’m with Corrisa–not anxious to risk losing the hard-won list I have.

    1. Deborah,
      With TrafficWave you can import your list, but your subscribers still have to confirm to be added to the list. I did just send TrafficWave a support request asking if they would be able to completely transfer a list for a TrafficWave member if you gave them the log in information to both accounts to prove that the list was a double opt-in list. I know Aweber has done this for me before. So I will let you know what I find out.

      Personally, in my case, I started a new list in TrafficWave for my self-publishing-coach.com site over a year ago. I then transferred almost all my other lists from Aweber to TrafficWave at that time except my previous self-publishing-coach.com subscribers as I have an autoresponder system that they go through and there was no easy way to import them into a new list without messing up that system. Therefore, I waited until they were all through the autoresponder messages and then decided to import them into TrafficWave.

      I do realize that I will lose some subscribers and at this time am willing to take that risk. In addition to saving the extra money, this is a way for me to weed out my list to those who truly want to continue to hear from me, learn from me and stay connected.

      In the end, I’m not advocating that everyone switch e-mail providers. If you have a company you like and that works well for you, great. But, if you are just getting started with e-mail marketing, then I do recommend using TrafficWave for the reasons stated in the blog post.

      1. Please let me know what you find out from Traffic Wave. I have a small list so far, but I figure it would be better to get it switched over before it gets more complicated. And I would like to have the auto-responder message feature.

  5. Hi Shelly,
    I am just starting out and dont use any thing at the mo….so pardon my ignorance when I ask if google Yesware add on does the same as the systems above?
    Thanks
    Roy

  6. Shelley, thanks so much for this insightful post. I wonder, in your investigation of your options, if you explored more robust email marketing/CRM systems, particularly Infusionsoft and 1ShoppingCart, both of which I see recommended often. If you have any thoughts to share on those, I’d be very interested in hearing them–and I’d love to know, besides unlimited emails and autoresponders, how TrafficWave compares.

  7. Hi Shelley,
    We have built a couple of hundred email addresses and now I don’t know if I should enter them onto my MacMail or my Contacts or if I need to sign up with an outfit like TrafficWave and enter the email addresses there.
    What process goes first.
    Thanks and congrats on your time away,
    Sam

    1. Sam – it is best to send mass e-mails out with an autoresponder system of some kind, like TrafficWave. I am so glad I finally broke down and paid the monthly fee for an e-mail list provider. It then motivated me to begin focusing on building a targeted list and setting up an e-mail autoresponder system that helps market for me 24/7. But, you really have to do what works best for your budget.

  8. Thank you for the detailed analysis.

    I did try Traffic Wave free and decided that it was not for me.

    Traffic Wave in my opinion has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to design, user friendliness, features and customer service. It leaves so much to be desired for a serious for profit marketer.

    I like both Aweber and Get Response. They’re the ones I’ve used and I believe in paying the money for the service that best meets your needs.

    1. Yvonne – we realize TrafficWave won’t fit everyone’s needs but it has worked great for us. The biggest drawback is the customer service. That’s why we also still highly recommend Aweber as well. They have amazing customer service and we were always happy with their product.

  9. Dear Shelley: Great article!

    I switched from Aweber two years ago for the same reason: cost! I now have over 25,000 subscribers, and would be paying more than I can afford per month. Sure, TW has some kinks, but I’ve learned to work with/around/through/insert another preposition them, and get things done.

    Of course, there are days when I miss the flexibility of Aweber (capitalizing the first letter of the first name!) or the beauty of MailChimp or another mailer. But, it’s very hard to argue against the constant, never-changing rate of $17.95.

    Thanks for your article!

  10. Dear Shelley – thanks for your post.

    I switched to TW 2 years ago from Aweber, and have been pleased overall. Although I miss some of the bells & whistles of Aweber, I *don’t* miss paying $150/mo, which is where I would be right now with a list of 20k subscribers.

    The biggest problem I have with TW has been its inability to capitalize the first letter of each person’s name. This has been a sore spot of mine for a couple of years. Amazingly, while typing this message, I realized that I can have a VA on fiverr spend 3 hours fixing this annoyance for $5. I’ll just need to keep up with the maintenance, and I’ll do that monthly going forward.

    Thanks for your post — it’s good to see other serious professionals who use TW.

  11. FYI, It is April 6, 2014 and I tried to sign up with Trafficwave for the $17.95 forever payment but was a bit confused.I think in your articles here and on the site it seems as if this fee is paid only one, instead of just once a month, monthly without increasing as your subscriber lists increases!

  12. Shelley/Heather,

    Thanks for the post. It’s very helpful.

    I want to use a mailing list for ministry. My plan is to start out using MailChimp, since it’s free for up to 2,000 subscribers. If I ever go over 2,000, then I plan to switch to TrafficWave for all the reasons you give.

    My question is: Is my strategy viable? Will it be easy or hard to transfer my list of 2,000 subscribers from MailChimp to TrafficWave if and when that time comes?

    1. You can definitely import opt-in lists to Aweber as I have done that before. You just contact their support and they will do it for you as long as it is a legitimate list. However, this option is not currently available with TrafficWave. For this reason, I recommend starting with TrafficWave. Otherwise, you’ll end up paying more once your list grows or have to transfer your subscribers and lose some in the process.

  13. Thanks for this great comparison. I have been trying to decide on which autoresponder service to use. Lately, I’ve been leaning towards Traffic Wave. I’m glad their deliverability is as good as Aweber.

  14. With TrafficWave can you send emails and newsletters from separate websites or email addresses or businesses or just one? I am currently using godaddy and wondered how they compare and if the HTML format emails well.

  15. Can the lists be sent emails from a different business name and email address. I currently use godaddy and it appears there you can just have one business name and email address if I understand correctly.

    Thanks for the info.

  16. Hi!
    Great post. I have used a week now trying to decide between Aweber and Trafficwave. It’s really difficult to choose. I’m new in this email marketing business and I have heard so much great things about Aweber, but I don’t like their pricing.

    The TrafficWave deal sounds better, but their site design doesn’t look very modern if you know what I mean. I’m sure they have a great service anyway, but these days your mind interpret “nice design” as “serious solition”. And I like that you can access their affiliate program right away when you pay. I think you have to apply on Aweber?

    I’m Norwegian, so my only concern is this physical address CAN-SPAM law. I don’t really want to add my Norwegian address to emails, but maybe I’ll just have too. Do you know any other solutions? Like having an US postbox or something?

    Thanks for any advice.

    regards

    Andreas

  17. I’m really glad I found this site. It looks like TrafficWave is the way to go. I really appreciate the tips you included in this article to begin building a list and the way you demonstrated how TrafficWave works with free marketing plan offer.

    Since I am also planning on creating short e-books, I had to sign up. Great site ladies! 🙂

    Steve

  18. I am an old schooler and this computer stuff is so new to me. I just got off the computer with trafficwave, I believe I cteated a campaign because I filled it out on my own email, I didnot pay anything because I am waiting on a credit card. once I pay do I get access to emails, how does it work-

  19. Dear Shelley and Heather:
    You did everything almost correct in sending email with your personal review.
    You had a video preview which is correct and good way to go.
    You have to check your video emails to see that the video preview works.
    The video worked on your preview but not the audio. So anyone looking at the video will find it worthless unless they are deeply interested in the product and will buy it anyway through your links so you get affiliate credit.
    I at the moment do not need the product to tell me what is successful as I have other keyword software that will niche down and analyze this information.
    The successful authors have developed their brand name and trust so they can sell a quality product on Kindle. To me it would be more important in material on putting together non-fiction and/or fiction material to compete with them. Putting together a quality Kindle product in a better niche area takes the same amount of time and with reviews and promotion can offer a better ROI. Hiding your head in the sand with low competition low paying keywords to me is a waste of precious time and energy.
    Best Wishes, Steven Block

  20. One think I don’t like about trafficwave is that they add my private email address I used in opening the account to footer of messages I sent out. Even when I have email address that is already at the footer.

    Another thing is that there is nothing like list segmentation. You can segment your list based on subscriber’s activities and interest for better targeting.

  21. it’s been awhile now since these post. so what’s your thought on it now with Traffic Wave for internet marketing? Have TW change?

  22. I’ve been with Aweber for such a long time that I’m a bit hesitant to switch. I’ll definitely consider switching now that I’ve read the information you’ve given here. Thanks!

  23. Just checking in to see if you still recommend Traffic Wave. You responded to a message here in 2017 saying that you only had some of your ministry list there. I took that to mean that you are not using them as much as you did when you first started.

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